A. I get they are both. I also get they don't like to be called "ghosts" as that has a negative feel to the term. They would like to be called "spirits" or "beings."
These beings or spirits reside in a different layer on earth, and they are able to do so due to their specific vibration. Some of them are the spirits of deceased people that have unfinished business or are choosing to wait to incarnate. Some are other beings (like ETs) that want to hang out here on earth, but in an elevated plane.Q. Do
A. Some do and some do not. It really depends on what their intention is for living in their earth plane. If they are here to guide, protect or finish something, they are very in tune to humans. They see us just as you and I would see each other, however, our 3D limitations prevent us (most times) from having that clear of a return connection.
If they decided not to go to the light and continue to live on earth, they they sort of "ignore" what humans are doing. They live their life, and I hear that most times they have a ritual or behavior (always walk the steps at a certain time, or turn on water at a certain time, etc).
Q. Are
A. It is a misconception. I get that we hear and experience them more at night because things are calmer, and it is tied to our subconscious activity that occurs either before, during or immediately after sleeping. Spirit interactions happen at all times of the day, we are just more aware (or have a hind sight awareness) during the night (sleepy time) hours. I also get that people that meditate and tap into their alfa and theta brainwaves during the day will have an increased ability to experience spirits during the daytime as well as the nighttime.
Q. Does a building that is haunted by
A. If really depends on their purpose for being there. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be shifted elsewhere. They do have the ability to leave, but not always the desire. Most times they need coaxed if they are tied to the property, but if they are here for other reasons, they may chose to go on their own.
Q. Hi Lynn, Could you tell us how do spirits distinguish between the tunnel of light to the spirit world versus the tunnel of light to the human womb (reincarnation)?
A. I get the tunnel to reincarnation has a brilliant yellow glow at the end and there is also a noise that sort of draws you in. Then I hear that "you are drawn to this light like a moth to a flame."
When a spirit chooses to stay in the spirit world, there is a certain determination. This determination can be strengthened by the spirit's vibration. If they resist or reject the golden yellow light, the tunnel sort of fades and you are here on earth, but on a different plane.
Q. Are there different tunnels of light with different colors for different humans depending on their spiritual evolution? Or do all humans go to one and only tunnel of light?
A. The end of the tunnel looks the same (a brilliant white and yellow light), but the tunnel walls look to be different for everyone. The wall color looks to be related to a chakra or something significant in their life (therefore making the transition very comforting). I hear, that for example, if someone had heart problems during their life, when they passed they would most likely see tunnel walls in various shades of green.
I also get that the color of the walls can be in shades we have never experienced with our human eyes. We don't have the human limitations when we pass, so we see all things. There are hues in every color we never knew existed.
And that is all I have for this reading. Thank you. Love and light-
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So, all that 'go into the light' stuff from movies was basically spiritual manipulation.
After avoiding the light trap, how can we gain access to the Oversoul/SOURCE? Ask for a guide? Do grounding and protection work after we transition?
I want to go back again to the article you did a reading on where the author explains how to turn away from the light...He says:
"1.Instead of letting yourself be “hypnotized” by its attraction, turn and look in the opposite direction (you will have 360° vision, and you can still concentrate on looking in a certain direction) and move away from the Tunnel (you do this by “thinking” yourself as moving — it’s all about thoughts and intention in this dimension).
Remember, you, as a soul of Fire, are far stronger than the centrifugal force that pulls you toward the Tunnel. Don’t try to fight it — that’s not the way to do it. Instead, think yourself away from it!
The Tunnel with the Light on the other side of it is a sophisticated hologram, and all you need to do is to think yourself in another direction, and the Tunnel will fade away.
2. Soon you will see the Grid as a fuzzy “barrier” in front of you, or above you (there are no ups and downs or left and right in space). You will also see that it has holes in it — like a Swiss cheese. Move through one of these holes.
3. You will now see the Universe the way it is, i.e. you will now be truly interdimensional. This means you will see a much larger universe than you are used to.
This is possible because you are outside the Grid, and you’re not in a programmed body — you are meeting the Universe as a pure spirit of Fires with an Avatar, which is your mind."
So it sounds like we have some choices...you can stay on earth or you can you slip through the grid or and be free to do what you want (as he further explains in the article)
Does this sound right?
So if the white light that we keep hearing is a trap/reptilian .What and where is heaven if there is ? What's the right thing to do ? Spirit guides and angels that guide us come from where ?
How do souls work in parallel universes? If there is another or other us, do we reconnect and combine with those souls upon death and then reincarnate as the same yet separate person in two or more separate realities?
Why do parallel universes exist to begin with? I'd like to go to the one where the high vibrational ones are in charge.
If our "3D limitations" prevent us from seeing & being aware of spirits, how about our pets? How much more awareness (if any) of spirits do our dogs & cats have?
Thanks
I always thought our decision to reincarnate was ours alone. At the end of Life we get a chance to Go Home, recooperate, visit friends and family, take a breather, and if and when we decide to go back, there is very detailed planning that takes place for our next Life. Never heard that it can happen again unless we avoid the Light??? I thought the Light was what we supposed to go toward, not avoid.
It's my understanding that the only ones that go back into another Life without choice are the dark entities, those who are without conscience. They are carried off by Carrion angels and immediately return to Earth in a new body. The rest of us return Home to a very joyful greeting.
I've never heard that we can get trapped by other beings to take us back to Earth??? With returning Home being such a momentous occasion for us all, how can we be allowed to be trapped back into another Life when there are angels and guides waiting to guide us over???
This is the part of awakening. Welcome! :)
Check out Wes Penre's site for more information on this topic.
http://wespenre.com/
Also an interesting overview on the true meaning behind much religious mythology as it pertains to the afterlife. The book is called, "Can You Stand the Truth : The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment", by Angeliki Anagnostou.
http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Truth-Chronicle-Mans-Imprisonment-ebook/product-reviews/B00K4CFYO6
@Dada: It is kind of like that... You need a spiritual game plan, and stay grounded.. If you call upon your guides, they will also assist you.
@whitelite: You said that so well! Yes, I agree with much of what you said!
@Iv J: There are different planes, and "heaven" is a high vibrational plane (of which you can get there by elevating your own vibration)..
@They Live: The purpose is for higher beings to toggle lower planes to aid in elevating people up. Parallel planes looks like a comparison of what could be versus what is..
@NLT: Pets are very spiritual because they don't have the rational mind talking them down. Their physical body isn't suppressing them the way a person's rational mind creates doubt. Many pets take things for what they are..
@Serene: It really is a question of going to the light, or going toward your guide or angel that is tied to you. Those beings can help you in the afterlife if you choose not to incarnate.
Thank you everyone for the great comments!!
Now that you mentioned it....
A weird thing happened to me lately.
I lost a large sum of cash ($6000. my estimate) early december, last year.Right inside my room. I suspected that the live-in 30 y/o man, our housekeeper did it, because all evidence pointed to him,despite a few doubts in my mind.
Then, last week, my sister reported to me that she,too.. was losing large chunks of money ,...even inside her locked safe.
Hmm.....In the past, (1996-97) I actually lost lots of money in her house , ..even those inside the locked vault inside my room. I also lost tons of money while I was in SF 2003?), and my shaman-friend said it was stolen by an entity that went thru a created interdimensional portal. (....aha....!)
We have this family problem ,...a demonic creature a KAPRE (google) has been in my family since my mother was a child. He's known to steal, and sometimes harm others.
He has always been well behaved with me, but I know this is one of his programs.
I believe he was created by a SORCERER to make trouble with my family. It is possible, he is perhaps semi-sentient and without freewill... totally obedient to the will of this Sorcerer. (just from my observations)
So, now ....I'd really like to kill this KAPRE.I mean to disrupt its electromagnetic coherence so he will cease to exist. I know he is around, listening ,...And I already told him "RETURN MY MONEY, OR I'LL KILL YOU".
Hehhhh..................I actually don't know how to kill him yet, so if anyone knows anybody out there who can do this, please let me know.
I need a referral .
muchos gracias.
Hi Lynn. So glad you touched on this topic. A question that I can't seem to glean an answer to is when a medium is in contact with a spirit, say they are doing a reading on someone, has that spirit not gone to the light and when they say (through the medium) I will always be with you, does that mean they will wait until they feel their job is done before they will consider going through the tunnel?
Many, many thanks :-D
I thought the same exact thing. If we immediately incarnate, then how is it that mediums are able to communicate with loved ones who have passed on the other side. This is confusing.
You cant go into the light and go to heaven like in the michael newton books where we plan our next life and we choose to reincarnate if we want to but also go into the light and oh shit we are trapped and now some reptilian in heaven is forcing us to reincarnate against our will,,,,this is total nonsense and double-speak.
Are there two lights after death, a real light and a false one?? so go in to the real one of course. This is only explanation I can come up with for this doublespeak. I'm not angry with anyone, and I'm trying to be polite, but I want to make a point also.
@SERENE....Serene I am in total agreement with you. We plan our next incarnation from heaven, we should go to the light if we want to, no one is gonna force us to come back against our will. It doesn't make sense to say there is some reptilian in heaven on the other side of the tunnel that will force us to reincarnate instantaneously and against our will. There is nothing like that in the Michael Newton books on the afterlife and reincarnation.
@A man called dada...please tell me how you see this tunnel of light and the heaven on the other side as "spiritual manipulation". I'm not getting it.
with respect
is there some reptilian hijacking us in the tunnel or something and forcing us to reincarnate? Or maybe there is some reptilain in heaven that pops in before we are ready to plan our next life from heaven and reincarnate, and boom he forces us to reincarnate!!.....but im in total seriousness here with this question because some of the things some of you are saying do not make any sense to me. maybe im just really stupid and all of this is some higher esoteric knowledge that i cant grasp but this information sounds like doublespeak to me and does not make sense to me...
Bottom line you cant say we go through the tunnel of light into heaven and we have have a rest and good time and then we plan our next incarnation on earth and then we choose to reincarnate when we want...... and also say we go through the tunnel of light into heaven and then we our forced to reincarnate against our will by dark beings. You cant have it both ways, that does not make sense. It is one or the other.
For Lynn, or anyone who can answer....I want to pose a question. Are there 2 tunnel of lights upon death? The real one that takes us to heaven, like in the Micheal Newton books? And a false tunnel of light, that the reptilains or some dark beings control, and if we go into this tunnel, then bam we are immediately forced to reincarnate against our will?? This is about the only explanation I can come up with for all this doublespeak.
As far as not taking the tunnel because you want to travel to other places in the universe, thats fine, if someone wants to do that, hey thats fine. But i dont believe if we go through the tunnel of light that when we get to heaven there is some dark being there who is waiting to force us to reincarnate! I also dont see how this is "spiritual manipulation".
with respect
I dont get why some people are so bound and determined to not go through this tunnel of light and into heaven. is it because none of you want to reincarnate on earth ever again? If you are spiritually evolved enough to never have to come back to 'earth school' then when you get to heaven that will be apparent and you can plan your next travels in the universe FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TUNNEL OF LIGHT, WHICH IS HEAVEN! I dont believe that you cant do that from heaven! Why not! Give me one good reason? Is it because dark beings and reptilains are waiting in heaven for us, that is nonsense. And that is what all of you are implying!!! You are saying the only way you can go anywhere else other then earth is to skirt the tunnel and heaven and start roaming the universe in freestyle mode. Hey, I have no problem with this, but dont tell me you cant do the same thing from heaven, if you are spiritually qualified of course(high enough vibration!) If you tell me you cant do this from HEAVEN!, then please back up that argument with something rational...
with respect
upon the sinking in of all of this and my attempt at bringing it all together....from what i can see the people who keep saying heaven is a trap of sorts, and eventually when you get tired of being up there the only option you have is to reincarnate on earth again. ok i get it. so you people are saying if you go through the tunnnel of light and to heaven your only option when you want to leave is to reincarnate on earth again, you cant go anywhere else in the universe from this place.... ok well if thats true then so be it. But no one should say there are dark beings in heaven that force us to reincarnate on earth before we are ready to come back....because i think that is a big load of baloney.
@Lynn...serious question.... Why do you say the reptilians are behind the tunnel of light and heaven? are there dark beings running around on the other side of the tunnel of light and in heaven trying to trick us to judge ourselves harshly or say maybe trick us into reincarnating too early and before we want too? Because i have heard such things from other sources, and i am sorely tempted to call it complete nonsense...
with respect
I just dont see how heaven, which is on the other side of the tunnel, is a trap, which was created by dark beings, or dark beings reside there too, and they force us to reincarnate....for gods sake our friends and family and angels and spirit guides reside there, they will be there with us, and they will help us cross over into it...we will have a rest there and plan our next earth life from there. How is that a reincarnation trap...hmmmm????
News Flash!...you are coming right back to the earth school to work on your spiritual evolvement whether you want to or not unless you are one of the few human beings on earth who actually have a high enough vibration to go roaming the universe in freestyle mode and find somewhere else to live and grow!
most people have to go to heaven and come back to the earth school...if you are highly evolved then dont go to heaven and go explore the universe! hey, thats great!!!
Here is the bottom line though...this argument that heaven is an earth reincarnation trap that people are making TOTALLY AND ONE AND ONLY HINGES UPON ONE SIMPLE STATEMENT...AND THAT STATEMENT IS...THAT IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW HUMAN BEINGS WITH A HIGH ENOUGH VIBRATION TO GO TO OTHER PARTS OF THE UNIVERSE AFTER DEATH, THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS OPTION IF YOU DONT TAKE THE TUNNEL OF LIGHT AND GO TO HEAVEN....BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU GET TIRED OF BEING THERE YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO COME BACK TO EARTH. Thats it!! That's their only rational argument that I can see.
If this is true, then yes anyone who is highly spiritually evolved and with a high enough vibration, then i guess they wouldnt want to come back to earth when they can go other places more exciting. I guess they would see heaven as a reincarnation trap of sorts and would view coming back to earth as a bummer, as they would prefer to go and experience other places.
I know im long winded with this but i dont care because this is something important to me....if you dont want to read my stuff just skip it no one is forcing you to read it...as usual, with respect...
with respect
@a man called dada...i think i see what you mean now by the tunnel is just a very subtle manipulation device to get us into heaven and back down to earth as quickly and as easily as possible...because the dark ones want us here on earth as long as possible, and in a low vibration state as long as possible...and they dont want us to know a thing about the rest of the universe, much less travel anywhere else...
@Everyone...if a person's vibration is high enough to go and live somewhere else in the universe, then i dont see why they just cant go to heaven, and then from there consult with their heavenly advisors and guides, and then travel to another part of the universe...all of existence is connected and if you want to travel elsewhere to another dimension or go incarnate on another planet, your helpers will guide you from the heavenly realm...if you are wise enough to know all of this while living on earth, when you die you will naturally arrive at a higher plane of heaven than most and from there you can plan your travels to another part of the universe, or you can come back to earth...i don't care what that author in that link says, and i dont care if you have to travel from heaven to another planning-type dimension before you can incarnate on another world, you can easily do this, your angels and spirit guides will work with you on this, all of life is connected and dont tell me that in heaven we are cut off from the rest of the universe, that is absolute hogwash!!!!
If you want to avoid heaven and go solo and fly out past the artificial grid the dark ones have put up to discourage us from leaving, that is your choice...but exploring the universe in this fashion strikes me as the more risky way of doing it, versus just going to the heavenly dimensions first and planning it from there.
So if you do not go into the tunnel, do you never reunite with your loved ones (family, animals, etc)?
Dear Flood,. It is my understanding that HEAVEN is NOT A PLACE. Those stories about SHANGRI-la, Elysium, Olympus, Asgard and other heavenly abodes,..are actually located in HIGH ASTRAL PLANE, where there is no perceptible difference between "heaven" as we were indoctrinated and the REAL HEAVEN.
It is my understanding that all those physical, etheric structures in the whole of astral plane ..........were created by the ALL-KNOWING , ALL LOVING, ALL POWERFUL CONSCIOUSNESS (MIND) OR NON-DUAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
The REAL HEAVEN is WHO you are. From where we are in this point in time, this is in our FUTURE POTENTIAL. It is in our probable-istic future; from the point of view of NON-DUAL CONSCIOUSNESS...........You never left your exalted position as NON-DUAL MIND. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, ALWAYS WERE, ALWAYS IN THE FUTURE FOREVER AND EVER. owwwwwwwwwwww........!Your potential, your probable destiny as human,....is to become conscious as this NON-DUAL MIND.
When you reached that state of BEINGNESS, you can create anything you wish to create..........such as that heavenly SHANGRI-LA or better.After all, you have become the library of all knowledge that were ever learned from the countless universes that you have created,...(ahem)
NOW, THAT is HEAVEN.
(my humble opinion.)
@Flood, and everyone else wanting to explore possibilities...
I just watched the links in this video collection: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=39117
Pay close attention to video #7, as I believe tv/ Hollywood gives hints, buries nuggets of truths, and exposes their (the controllers/ archons ) future plans right out in the open, but mostly we think it's too outlandish for much of this stuff to ever be real. The info that Alex Collier gave makes sense. We provide a sort of energetic food for this twisted group. Why would they want to let us be on our way, depriving them of future sustenance? Think about the situations many infants are born into- a life of abuse, hunger, abandonment, and then on top of that, females born into male dominate-abusive to women cultures. I can't imagine willingly going there, yet we see it happens all the time. Could it be souls are given guilt trips that direct them to go to certain lives to make up for past deeds? Or just being placed in certain situations with no choice at all?
Alex Collier said when you pass on, family members may be there to greet you. When the time comes, instead of being drawn into that "loving light" turn about face, and request to be united with your higher self, or return to your real home. He said look up, you'll notice the grid that keeps us here. I'd love to know about the situation our loved ones are in who have passed before us. I've always said I'm asking tons of questions when I pass, but I do know I will make it known I wish to unite with my higher self!
I think an important trait to have is to not let our egoic mind convince us we know the answers, therefore stop asking questions. I got trapped into that kind of thought process with a pervasive religion I grew up in. It was mind blowing (and overwhelming) having to start all over and explore- what resonates with me, what am I going to let go?! I pose questions now, and invariably am I'm exposed to info that seems to provide some answers.
I'm rooting for all of us here in our never ending journey of discovery!
@Charlotte bailey...with respect....please provide information or links to what is our "real home". from my previous understanding and links i have previously provided, there are many different heavenly levels, ranging from the lower astral to the higher astral and all the way up to a 5th dimensional realm called the mental plane.It is my current understanding that you will be drawn to the level that your vibration resonates with, and that all of these levels are on the other side of the tunnel in what we would call 'heaven'.
and if we turn from the light and make this request, what happens then? does an angel or spirit guide come and whisk us away to where we need to be and reunite us with our higher self? the problem with all of this information is there are way too many possibilities but it seems no one has any concrete answers.
what if nothing happens? maybe we become a ghost then and are stuck in that lower astral realm closest to earth? does anyone know if the light ever appears again at a later time if you turn away in the beginning? this is what i mean by no one seems to have any real answers...and personally im not going to go flying around the universe half-cocked and asking every being and star civilization i meet to take me in and give me a home because i really really hate planet earth and i never want to go there again. that just seems crazy to me. we are here for a very good spiritual reason. the dark ones that suck our energy and make things hard for us, i dont like it either, but god made the rules, there are 2 sides to existence in this realm, light and dark, good and evil. it is just part of the game and we are here for a very good spiritual reason. im just sick and tired of any suggestion whatsoever that we are trapped here, ive been there done that with the whole fear thing and we are trapped here in a reincarnation trap , and its not the way to think.
by suggesting there is a real home somewhere else, you are also suggesting that the other one on the other side of the light is false, and furthermore that when we plan our lives and come back down to earth it is useless, it means nothing, and that it is an exercise in futility. that we are trapped.
so you go somewhere else and reunite with this higher self, what ever exactly that is. so what??....as far as i can see you are going to plan another earthly life or a life somewhere else in the universe.... and then do the exact same thing you would have done in the other heavenly realm. i dont see the difference....can you point it out to me?
this higher self you speak of, from my current understanding, it decided to send a piece of you down here for an earthly life for a very good spiritual reason. every single time you come down here. we are not trapped here, we made a choice to be here, every single time. you cant live only as your higher self in a higher dimension unless the work is finished in the lower dimensions, as a piece of your higher self, your soul, your personality. and that takes multiple lifetimes, which is why we reincarnate.
if you are not finished with the work of lower dimensional life, your higher self is just gonna send you right back down to earth again to reincarnate and learn. or to one of the many other planets in the universe to where life is similiar to whats on earth. you are not going to avoid reality and escape anything by running from earth. and i sense that this is part of what appeals to many concerning wanting to run around the universe and not reincarnate here again. no star civilization is going to let anyone into their world and society anyway unless they are spiritually qualified for it.
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I understand that many who frequent these types of blogs are starseeds, they have no need to reincarnate again in the lower dimensions on planet earth, or any similar world...but this is not the case for native earthers, which is the large majority of humans beings on earth. Native earthers are once again, here for a very good spiritual reason, to experience the game, to learn and grow spiritually and to just live and experience. we are currently evolving spiritually through the lower 3rd and 4th dimension and into the 5th dimension....my undertstanding is in the 5th dimension is when final unity with higher self or oversoul occurs,,, right now we are gaining information and experience for higher self by being a piece of it in the lower dimensions and gaining experience and spiritual growth...so right now its not quite time yet to fully 'return home', although we get a brea in betweeen incaranations, this is what heaven is...from my understanding a 5th dimensional world is the distant future of earth, similar to arcturus..but we are not there yet
personally im just not gonna worry myself about running from earth when i die cuz i want to be a refugee somewhere else...if the dark ones were to take over earth now anyway at this moment of endgame, we would not die, we are infinite and eternal beings, and we would just start a new game on another planet somewhere... wer would not be trapped here then and we are not trapped here now or in the afterlife...does anyone realize just how crazy that sounds...my bet is that wont happen anyway, and in the end the good guys will win here on earth...and no one will want to go running around the universe and be a refugee in another civilization on another planet because they will be very proud to be an earther and live in a better society that we all created together...
...last of all, im glad we are discussing all of this...we cant just learn from a sentence or two...we have to get into the meat of the topic...we have to dive right in...so, thank you and bless you all
Thank you for the wonderful comments. I really appreciate the time and energy put into this. Lots (and lots!) to think about!
@Charlotte Bailey...with respect...
...honestly...in my humble opinion...this is what I think of what Alex Collier said, and the guy from the link earlier, and all the rest of them...I think anyone that turns way from the light is going to find themselves alone, and then eventually by calling out a spirit guide or helper person or an angel is going to come and see you and try to guide you to where you want to go... and you will have two options...go run around the universe and try to live somewhere else, or the guide or angel will take you right back to the tunnel and the light that you just turned away from, and you will end up going to the heavenly realms anyway
from my humble understanding once you go through the light and are in the heavenly realms, IF REUNITING WITH THE HIGHER SELF IS A PRIORITY THEN IT WILL BE PART OF THE HEAVENLY PROCESS, and eventually this will happen before you seperate from it once again for another lower dimensional incarnation. no one has to worry about this not happening in heaven.
and thats it. if you turn away from the light, you will either go and try to live somewhere else in the universe, or go right back into the light and the heavenly realms. i think if you ask lynn about this she will tell you the same thing. if anyone wants to see a description of the various heavenly realms, check out the links i posted in the earlier post on this stuff in the comments section.
notice Alex Collier didnt say what would happen afterwards, he just said turn away and make a request...what is going to happen is exactly what i said.. you can go explore the universe, or go to the heavenly realms...there is no other 'true heavenly realm for earthers' where we reunite with our higher self...there is only one true heavenly realm for earthers and that is on the other side of the light...it is the same heaven that Michael Newton and Dolores Cannon talk about in their many books...Steve Beckow from the golden age of gaia/2012 scenario website has also compiled much research on these heavenly realms from psychics and mediums like lynn..I dont think we are meant to reunite with our higher selves permanently in the afterlife after each earthly incarnation...we are meant to seperate from it over and over again for lower dimensional lives on earth and spiritual growth... maybe we do reunite with it temperarily in the afterlife after each earth life, but it is a touch and go thing...if you are meant to reunite with the higher self for a little while in the heavenly realms, this will be part of the process, you dont have to worry about it not happening, and while you are there no one is gonna force you to come back to earth before you are ready...
i thought i posted this comment earlier but maybe i didnt hit the publish button, too many things going on at once...anyway i will try again..if it double posts i apolegize...
www.transients.info/2015/01/source-new-earth-shift-in-consciousness.html
this article contains information on the higher self, the afterlife, nature of existence...many many other articles on this site covering the same topics...there is even a qhht session where it was specifically asked are human beings in a reincarnational trap on earth and in the afterlife, and the answer was no, this is not happening...i would post a link to this session but i cant seem to find the correct article at the moment...
www.transients.info/p/michael-newton.html
all the micheal newton books on the afterlife
I am going to entertain this crazy thought for a moment, since there are so many men going on about it on the web...lets say we are trapped on earth and in the astral planes when we die, and our only option is to incarnate on earth again...and that we have to 'reunite' with our higher self in some higher dimension/plane of existence in order to never have to come back to earth and the lower dimensions again...
when we turn away from the tunnel and the light to the 'lower heavenly realms', and make this request to the universe in our mins that we want to reunite with our higher selves right then and there...what happens then??? does an angel or spirit guide person come and whisk us away to this true home higher self dimension where the higher self resides? what happens if we turn away from the light ,it dissapears, and no one answers our request or comes to guide us and cross us over? so we are lost or stuck or ghosts then? I am trying to point out that there are certain dangers to this method as well...I personally am not going to go flying around the universe half cocked, because there are all kinds of things and beings out there and there is danger to doing that as well...
if the tunnel and the light dissapears when you turn away, does it ever reappear if you decide you are tired of being a lost spirit and roaming the earth and you want to take it now? This is a serious question, does anybody know??...i used to hear that psychic lady sylvia brown who appeared on the montel williams show, she used to tell ghosts who were lost or stuck in the earth plane closest to earth, to go to the light...because that is where we are supposed to go
So we are supposed to turn away from the light, and make this request, and poof an angel will appear and he will say, 'nah, that light is the lower realm fake heaven, you dont wanna go there, if you want to reunite with your higher self i will take you to that higher dimension, and then you will realize you dont have to incarnate on earth ever again in the lower dimensions, then you will see you are trapped and you wont come back and you will be free...ok i have entertained this possibility, maybe its possible, but to me it sounds crazy...
@Psychic Focus
If you turn away from the tunnel and the light, and it dissapears, will it ever reappear if you want to take it later? I am willingly to try this, but only if you can take the tunnel and the light at a later time. Because the whole talking to your spirit guides and making a request to reunite with your higher self thing may not work, and you may get left alone and stuck in the earth plane, as a lost and wandering spirit.
And I'm not going to go flying around the universe looking for a new home. Sorry, that doesn't appeal to me. I'll take the tunnel instead, thanks...
Has anyone read the Tibetan book of the dead?
@747
I've read the Tibetan book of the dead and it's different from what Lynn said.
There are different colored tunnels for the different realms in Tibetan Buddhism
with respect...
concerning the discussion and the questions here in the comments section about contacting the higher self/source/oversoul upon death...and also what alex collier said...really i think alex said that simply to try and raise people's knowledge of life and the nature of reality and existence...both here on earth and in the afterlife....because if you are ignorant of the truth and stuck in erroneous systems of belief about the nature of reality on earth, then you will gravitate to one of the lower astral planes in the afterlife, and you may not awaken to the truth in the afterlife either....so i believe he just said that to to wake people up and bring truth to people both here on earth and in the afterlife.....the contact your higher self thing when you die is just a remark to try and get people to rise to one of the higher afterlife realms when they die, because there will be more truth there, and they will benefit from that....of course the catch to it is that you have to possess that knowledge and truth here on earth first, before you can arrive at these highest afterlife realms...you can turn away from the light and ask for contact or reunion with your higher self/oversoul if you want, but i dont think you will be taken to any plane of existence any different to all the planes of existence that are in the other side of the tunnel and the light...if you were that would imply that we are trapped, and i just dont believe that
sorry im so long winded with this, but im searching for the truth...just like you
im sorry i cant resist i just have to say this... i dont see how the light is a trap either....it is the light of the heavenly realms that is shining through and attracts you, is it not?? so what if the reptilians stuck a tunnel on the front side of it, i dont see where that matters at all...im not even sure that they did...and their grid that surrounds planet earth is a joke, a laughing stock...for crying out loud the grid has HOLES in it like swiss cheese and you can fly right through it...some prison wall that is pffff.....all of those astral planes and mental planes in the heavenly realms are there for a reason, they are the afterlife...i just dont see where a tunnel stuck on the front of the light supposedly by some reptilians to get us in and out of heaven and back down to earth that much faster, and this supposed 'grid' to keep us from exploring the universe, i dont see where suddenly the heavenly planes on the other side of the light is a trap...it doesnt really make sense...but to each his own i guess
@Joy
I totally agree with you. Heaven is also a place inside of us. At this point in time humanity also has the potential to create a golden age, a heaven on earth.
But Heaven is also a place we go to when we die. And it is on the other side of the tunnel and the light. And I most certainly agree with your statement that the All-KNOWING, ALL-LOVING, ALL-POWERFUL CONSCIOUSNESS created these heavenly realms. Or these physical, etheric structures in the whole of the astral plane, as you so adeptly describe, in all of your technical brilliance. I love how you do that.
So the ALL-KNOWING, ALL-LOVING, ALL-POWERFUL CONSCIOUSNESS(MIND) OR NON-DUAL CONSCIOUSNESS created them. Or you could just say God created them. The god inside us, the God outside us, what ever the case may be...God created them. WHICH IS MY POINT EXACTLY. God created them, not some evil reptilian being, and those planes of existence are not a trap.
@Alex
and the tibetan book of the dead said nothing about some reptilian being behind the tunnel or the light, right alex? and it never mentioned the possibilty of a false second tunnel and light that draws you in and then immediately sends you back to earth, reincarnated, without visiting the heavenly realms, right alex? honestly, i think lynn may have been wrong when she said in an earlier post on this same topic, that "she sees the reptilians are behind this tunnel and light"...
the stuff in the movies about go to the light is just to keep us in the earthly heavenly realms and to reincarnate on earth again...the dark ones dont want us to explore the universe and incarnate on any other planets where we would have more freedom and to where they couldn't control us as much...
Dear Flood,
RE; Reptilians
This is what I know, and what I'll share is for entertainment only.
The reptilians are an ET race of extremely malevolent and arrogant nature. They are here since the birth of mankind. The dracos have scales, horns, fangs batlike wings massive tails and claws that reminds us of satan. The story is..........they are called the Satanic race and that they came from another universe, called the Satanael Universe. Here , I like to call them satanas. They are first class predators, and are here to vampirize us.They are plagues in our universe, having destroyed /exploded over 8000 planets to date.They are 4th dimensional beings with a different physical matrix from us, and we cannot see them. They have high IQs and physically larger than humans. They are now running most governments from the shadow and are ready to plunge this reality into darkness. ( I meet them often in the astral plane while I'm asleep.......and sometimes, I get my ass kicked back to my body.)
There are a few other malevolent, vampiric ET races that are also here on earth.They subjugate one another, but their loyalties are only to the humans they can eat.
We are their food. Physically and energetically.
To accomplish this aim, they set themselves up as Gods and established all religions on earth. This is ,....to be able to suck our energies without paying for it. The humans freely give their energies to these GODs in order to be saved by a "savior"
(hey, ma,...no karma.)
The GODs that are human-like were created from THOUGHTFORMS and are being kept alive thru endless human devotions. In time, these "heavenly hosts" become self-aware.
The TUNNEL of LIGHT after death is just one of their creations in order to recycle us over and over again ,....
Food... They're into life-extension and youthening. They live an average of 400 years some up to 10000 years. With this practice, they live indefinitely...They harvest life essences when people, saints, designated prophets, new age gurus pray to them , or when they go to churches. Their temples, churches, basilicas,are built over leylines and the human energy harvests are collected thru these leylines and sent out thru these massive energy portals called pyramids. The life force then are sent to wherever they are in any galaxy thru an AI machine called MAHATMA. The pure clean, virgin life force that they cannot use are stored in vials for future consumption. It is happening to this very moment.
The dirty, filthy life force from people who were dismembered thru blood ritual sacrifices (in Macchu-Picchu,in the Bohemian Grove, Under the Vatican, in the royal palaces, during the WW1, WW2, during Inquisition,, during witch huntings, etc) are being used by their SORCERERS to give life to demonic creatures that they created from dead light. this dead light is the product of all the vicious and malicious feelings being emoted by unsuspecting mankind. These demons now have designer name called archons ...in time become self-aware and I think they become difficult to control,...so they easily possess their creators (the sorcerers)
The become SYMBIOTIC in their goal to take down humankind.
End of Days......This is the reason so much insanity and murders going on these days. THESE REPTILES PLAN TO PLUNGE THIS REALITY INTO TOTAL DARKNESS THRU THE NWO. THEY ARE BANKING ON WW3 TO USE THE LIFE-FORCE OF 6.3 BILLION HUMANS AS BLOOD RITUAL SACRIFICE TO ARES, THE GOD OF WAR...(a euphemism)...to totally clamp on the rest of humanity.
Eating us is fairly straightforward. They abduct children and women at the tune of one million or more a year, in the USA alone. They rape each and every one of them, impregnate the women to make hybrid reptiles and then dismember those destined for ritual sacrifice........ewww....google this, it's all in the web. This is the reason disclosure ain't gonna come from the cabal.
anything else I forgot..?
So now dear Flood, you can make your choice.
@Joy...with respect...I welcome your engagement...
the tunnel of light may be the reptilians creation, but there has to be some sort of natural doorway or portal to the heavenly realms...or these physical, etheric structures in the astral realm as you say...thats why spirit guides and angels and family members are there at death to help us cross over and enter these realms....if they did stick a false white light in that doorway to attract us to it, as lynn and dada stated, so we wouldnt go off galavanting across the rest of the universe, i honestly dont see where that makes any difference...the heavenly realms on the other side of this doorway are still created by THE ONE TRUE GOD, there is nothing false about them, they are not a trap, and it is natural for us to go there when we die...
All of this desire people have to escape earth and go incarnate on another world or in some other dimension is because they all think the grass is gonna be greener on the other side...everyone tninks they are getting a raw deal on this rock and deep down they are unhappy...they all think they will be free and happy on another planet and as a member of some star civilization, and to hell with earth we will all leave and im never coming back...honestly do you think its going to play out that way...i think not...do you think that the population of earth will be allowed by the heavenly authorities of the universe to run from planet earth, and leave an empty planet and just disperse to the pleiades or orion or alpha centauri or wherever, i doubt it...we are at the moment of endgame now, people are waking up thats why things like this are being realized and debated, and now is not the time for humanity as a collective to run and abandon ship...why do you think we are getting help from ETs, we are meant to take the earth back...or the dark ones will win and take the planet and we will all migrate or disperse then...but i dont think we are all going to be allowed to run from earth in the hopes of being a refugee and finding a new home...all of what im saying is correct because we are not trapped here...at least not in the fullest sense of the word...we are here for a very good spiritual reason
i admit i wonder why things have to be so hard here as well...and if some of the suffering is uneccessary...if we can accomplish the same spiritual goals on an easier planet/civilization, ok, then i will jump ship and go be a refugee with everyone else...but I doubt this is the case...of course everyone is entitled to make their own decisions...
heres some food for thought, lets say you are one of the people who abandons planet earth, and you go and live somewhere else...and in the end the good guys wim here and we take back the planet, and we have the best planet to live on the galaxy, along with the wonderful capabilities of the human body, and i hear they are very special...maybe everyone who stayed and did the hard work wouldnt want you to come back, because you ran away at the final battle...just sayin
look, you are right joy, im in the process of debating this on the inside and making my own decision as well...im not trying to point the finger at anyone,talk bad about anyone, preach or sound holier than thou, although i can see where it may look like that at times...i am not afraid to comment on this issue, i am not afraid of debate and conflict and heated emotional debate on this issue,BECAUSE IT IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US...a lot of the stuff we talk about is a fart in the wind compared to this...this affects every single human being on planet earth
thats it for now, maybe more later, peace to all of you out there
everyone keeps saying mindlessly, the tunnel and the light are a creation of the reptilians...so what? they didnt create the heavenly planes on the other side of this light, they are god's creation, and it is natural for us to go there...this is the way it appears to me..as far as i can tell there is a natural doorway to these afterlife realms anyway, and the reptilians just stuck a warm shiny light in it that attracts us to this doorway even more, because they dont want us to travel to any other planet...of course if your vibration is high enough you could do that from the heavenly realms, instead of coming back to earth again, the heavenly realms are not cut off from the other dimensions and planets, that is nonsense, people just keep saying this 'we are trapped slogan' and they dont think about all of the nonsense that it implies about so many other facts of existence...if we are trapped it is only a little, and that is because life on earth is so fucking hard, and we might have it easier in on another planet THAT IS THE ONLY RATIONAL ARGUMENT THAT I CAN FIND BEHIND THIS WE ARE TRAPPED STUFF AND THE TUNNEL AND THE LIGHT ARE A TRAP BECAUSE YOU EVENTUALLY REINCARNATE ON EARTH AGAIN...but we cant sit up in the earthly heavenly dimensions forever either, or the heavenly dimensions of some other planet...we have to incarnate somewhere again, just like lynn said in her answer to alex, because this is the only way to spiritually grow...
OK folks, be on the lookout for agent smith trolls to show up soon, it is about that time...
does anyone else even care about our situation? i am pretty much the only one commenting... i have posed a few questions to the board but no response
is everyone just going to turn away from the light and ask for a spirit guide to come near to them, and then have a conversation with that helper person about what to do? that'a a good idea but i imagine they are going to tell you unless you are spiritually qualified and accepted to go incarnate on another planet, then you need to come with me and we need to go into that light and tunnel that you just turned away from...
@Joy
i know much of what you say is fact, but you paint a very bleak picture there of the future of planet earth and humanity...tell me, do you really believe the dark ones will take over the earth? I dont believe that. they could, but smart money says in the end, they wont. i just dont know how long this battle is going to rage, thats all. and the average person may not see huge positive change for another few decades.
are you going to leave planet earth upon your death joy? are you whats called a 'starseed'. are you going home to some other planet? tell me what you are going to do upon the the moment of your death, if you dont mind...
i will tell you up front what im going to do...im either going to pause, and not go into the light, and ask for my spirit guides to come to me so we can have a conversation about where i should go and what is in my best interests...or im going straight into the light and into the heavenly realms...if i have a conversation with my guide and he tells me the grass is no greener for me in any other dimension or on any other planet, and that im not going to escape the spiritual work of life that is required of all beings by wanting to go somewhere else, then i shall have no argument with him, because this is what i really believe in the first place, and off to the tunnel and light the both of us will gladly go...
@Joy...
you said,"the gods that are human-like were created from thoughtforms and are being kept alive through endless human devotions. in time, these thoughtforms become self aware.
i dont see how someone like jesus is a thoughtform. im not christian, im not a jesus freak, im not even religious, but as far as i know jesus was and is a very real enlightened being. he was possibly even a good ET from another planet.
What gods are you talking about. the hindu gods? well im not a hindu, and i dont worship any of those deities, so i dont have to worry about going to any of those afterlife realms/astral planes, because my understanding and knowledge of the universe/multiverse is beyond that.
i dont worship false gods like on stargate sg-l. i dont worship satan, i dont worship clawed winged draco reptilians or wolfmen. if i worship or pray to anyone it is SOURCE, THE ONE TRUE GOD. or i might send a prayer to my guides, or ask benelovent ets to give us humans some help down here, but thats it. I dont worship false gods, so im not worried about being deceived by them in the astral planes. i think i am wise enough now to tell when i am being outright lied too and hoodwinked.
so to sum it up, im not worried about false thoughtforms or gods in the afterlife that were created by some other human being. thats not my problem.
maybe the lower astral planes/afterlife realms are somewhat deceptive, but from what i can gather the higher afterlife realms will have MORE LIGHT, MORE KNOWLEDGE, MORE LOVE, more humans whose vibration is in the upper 4th dimension, and they are very close to enlightenment and the 5th dimension, they will probably only have to incarnate on earth again a few more times, and then they will gain enlightenment and ascend to 5th dimensional living, and they will be free then to roam the universe and incarnate on may more planets...there should also be various types of beings or ets or heavenly representatives that reside there that work with souls in higher afterlife realms and help them gain know ledge and plan their next incarnation...i dont care if there are false thoughtforms gods in the lower astral, that doesnt make the afterlife realms a trap...heh heh sorry to be so argumentative joy but we all know this is a complicated situation, and true understanding requires much thought and dicussion, at least it does for me...im just not a person who can give it one thought or two, go by what one other person told me to do, and say bam all is known and all my worries are figured out and now everything is perfect now and i dont have to search for the truth...
i guess no one wants to dicuss these things here, so i will have to move on to another place to continue the discussion...but i will ask this one more time before i go...
is there a false light and a real light? so maybe the reptilian created tunnel and false light take us to only the lower astral, where you are trapped and can only be reincarnated on earth again? and if we turn away from the light, and make contact with our higher selves or ask for our guides to come and help us then we will be taken to the real light of heaven? The real light of heaven, the real doorway, and the real heavenly realms? and then have freedom to move about the universe?
does anyone know the answer, or is everyone silent because they are uncertain of what the truth is, just like me?
@Flood: Thanks for the comments. I don't think anyone is ignoring your questions, but rather taking them all in and pondering over them. You raise a lot of good and valid points.
I do see the light as more of a trap. It looks to be designed by the reptiles. It serves as a way to sort of wipe memories before/during the reincarnation process so you aren't born with all the wisdom (image being born with several lifetimes of wisdom and how far you could advance with that?) you have obtained in previous lives.
I see if you walk away from the light, you always have the option to go back toward it. The reptilians WANT you in this light...
@Psychic Focus
thank you lynn for your comment. i appreciate it. im going to do what seems to be in my best interest. from what i can gather, i will move my self away from the light, request for spiritual help from any trusted sources(spirit guides, angelic beings, my higher self, whoever), and look to find another doorway/portal to the earthly afterlife realms/planes, since the tunnel and light appear to be detrimental to my spiritual well-being. i still dont see where the reptilians are in control of all of the higher astral and mental realms(afterlife locations) in the afterlife. the ones i have given examples of and put up links to. but if its all a trap and not in my best interest, then upon my death, if my spirit guides or anyone for that matter, can take me off-world to another dimension, anywhere in the universe where i will be free, then i guess that is where i am going. and i guess none of us will ever be reincarnating on planet earth again. sounds weird doesn't it? but if thats the way it is, then so be it.
Dear Flood,
That's wonderful. Am glad for you.
It is my understanding...and this is for the sake of sharing what we know, not insulting others,....that ALL the GODs in ALL religious organizations...like "GOd the Father, Jehovah, El Shadai, Allah, Archangel Michael,Zeus, Apollo, demigods of ancient times " all started as THOUGHTFORMS, or started as religious beings ,part of a set of belief system , doctrines,...of a religious order. There might be a being behind this or that GOD, say,...I think Jehovah is actually a fierce ET warrior in the Annunaki ancestry, but the Jehovah as God in religion is a thoughtform. Also, the Olympian Gods might be real Annunakis ,but the story of them, inside religion is a thoughtform. THESE THOUGHTFORMS WERE DESIGNED TO TRAP YOU SO THAT YOU WILL ALLOW THE BEINGS BEHIND THESE THOUGHTFORMS TO SUCK YOUR ENERGY, YOUR STRENGTH,your mental abilities, your psychic connections, YOUR LIBIDO, MAKE YOU GROW OLD, MAKE YOU SICK, ETC, ETC. (my very religious relatives in their 60s are all decrepits from praying to ancient their Gods) I TELL THEM THAT ARTHRITIS, HEART DISEASE,HTN, DIABETES, WHATEVER,....ARE AFRAID OF ME. they just think I'm weird. They're TOTALLY brainwashed
by their handlers.
It is my understanding that there were two Jesus'es. There was the original Jesus born in that vicinity ,...and the other was a clone, from the original by a BLACKMAGICIAN ET from Andromeda by the name of SANANDA. I believe this is the same sorcerer that cut our DNAs down to two strands and clipped a " separate parasitic entity" into our brains, that pretends it is us, as SOUL."
The original Jesus was disappeared (he went via Egypt); the cloned Jesus was lowered down and he started preaching his gospel. The story behind this Jesus is NOT NICE. IT WAS A MALEVOLENT DESIGN TO STOP THE ASCENSION PROCESS OF EARTH AND HUMANITY; TO EXPLODE OUR CHAKRAS BY SORCERY USING THE 5 MAJOR WOUNDS INFLICTED ON THIS CLONED JESUS DURING THE CRUCIFIXION.
MY POINT REALLY IS....is not to condemn everybody but to remind us that........WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO THESE TEACHERS ARE. OUR BEST BET, IS TO FALL BACK ON OUR OWN SPIRIT TO TEACH US. TO LEAD US. TO SHOW US THE WAY. If you have any issue with anything, even as simple as "where my carkeys..?" Take a deep breath, relax, tap your chest, and say "help me", then listen.
Dear Flood, our answers to your questions are not gospel of truth. Your inner listening will give you that.
In my experience, I have had major issues with FALSE LIGHT . YES, the negative ETs are experts in using false light.They have shrouded me with it. They have interfered with my connection to my inner wisdom. These bastards have technologies above our ability to comprehend them.............But they don't have technology against the light of SOURCE. and your access is thru your body, Where else..? out in heaven..up in the ionosphere..?
Dear Flood,
RE; False Light........ I also have major issues with false karmas.These run thru the ancestral lines. The word "the sins of the father visited upon his son" or something like that. It seems... we as ONE all share these garbage.
Also, if you want to learn how to create a thoughtform , that is easy enough.
Psssssstttttt.....you can create a GOD. You can make this thoughtform very powerful by dowsing then harnessing, those life-forces passing thru leylines.
Years ago,they called this MAGIC. today is is quantum physics.
....hehhh..................... just to lighten things up a bit.
This dialogue has been very interesting! Thank you for all the comments and info. Lots to think on!
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